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Re: Future of the Formula BOINC
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:36 pm
by bcavnaugh
Small Teams with Heavy Hitters are great but but teams that use Corporate Hardware and teams within schools with the all the host can compete but for me Teams with Corporate Hardware & School hardware, Coin Teams should be on their on BF. This would allow small teams to show and support for small projects.
Not saying the School Teams and Teams with Corporate Hardware cannot join in only that it is an event that should be for users using their own hardware and paying for their own power bills. Only my 2 Cents and not a Team option but my own.
Also "I prefer if only team leaders have to register" as well.
Re: Future of the Formula BOINC
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:08 pm
by UBT - Timbo
bcavnaugh wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:36 pm
Small Teams with Heavy Hitters are great but but teams that use Corporate Hardware and teams within schools with the all the host can compete but for me Teams with Corporate Hardware & School hardware, Coin Teams should be on their on BF. This would allow small teams to show and support for small projects.
Not saying the School Teams and Teams with Corporate Hardware cannot join in only that it is an event that should be for users using their own hardware and paying for their own power bills. Only my 2 Cents and not a Team option but my own.
Also "I prefer if only team leaders have to register" as well.
Hi
The rules from back in 2016, stated:
Teams are splitted in 3 divisions, after calculation of their average RAC of November the year before. RAC Division thresholds are fixed to 0, 1 million and 10 millions credits.
So, League 1 was designed for the teams with RAC over 10m, League 2 for teams with RAC >1m and <10m and League 3 for teams with RAC <1m (and all teams must have a RAC of >100 to join Formula BOINC). This meant that teams would be competing against similar sized/similar RAC teams.
https://formula-boinc.org/regles.py?lang=&year=2016
These rules changed slightly with team promotion and demotion from each League.
I do not think there is any way to prevent "heavy hitters" from joining FB, whether they are schools, corporates or individuals using "Cloud" services or their own "farm" of machines, UNLESS they make this a public declaration...and if enough of these join, they maybe they can have their own League? But that might be for the future?
regards
Tim
Re: Future of the Formula BOINC
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:31 pm
by sebastien
Re: Future of the Formula BOINC
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 1:34 am
by bcavnaugh
UBT - Timbo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:08 pm
bcavnaugh wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:36 pm
Small Teams with Heavy Hitters are great but but teams that use Corporate Hardware and teams within schools with the all the host can compete but for me Teams with Corporate Hardware & School hardware, Coin Teams should be on their on BF. This would allow small teams to show and support for small projects.
Not saying the School Teams and Teams with Corporate Hardware cannot join in only that it is an event that should be for users using their own hardware and paying for their own power bills. Only my 2 Cents and not a Team option but my own.
Also "I prefer if only team leaders have to register" as well.
Hi
The rules from back in 2016, stated:
Teams are splitted in 3 divisions, after calculation of their average RAC of November the year before. RAC Division thresholds are fixed to 0, 1 million and 10 millions credits.
So, League 1 was designed for the teams with RAC over 10m, League 2 for teams with RAC >1m and <10m and League 3 for teams with RAC <1m (and all teams must have a RAC of >100 to join Formula BOINC). This meant that teams would be competing against similar sized/similar RAC teams.
https://formula-boinc.org/regles.py?lang=&year=2016
These rules changed slightly with team promotion and demotion from each League.
I do not think there is any way to prevent "heavy hitters" from joining FB, whether they are schools, corporates or individuals using "Cloud" services or their own "farm" of machines, UNLESS they make this a public declaration...and if enough of these join, they maybe they can have their own League? But that might be for the future?
regards
Tim
Rules can be changed, as of now a new rule to have to sign up.
Re: Future of the Formula BOINC
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:30 pm
by davidBAM1
UBT - Timbo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:08 pm
I do not think there is any way to prevent "heavy hitters" from joining FB, ... ... ... or their own "farm" of machines
For example, would you want to prevent me from joining FB?
FB and Pentathlon are precisely the reasons why I built my 'farm' in the first place. Yes, of course the science is a major beneficiary but I need the adrenaline from competing. Badges don't float my boat at all
Re: Future of the Formula BOINC
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:01 pm
by UBT - Timbo
davidBAM1 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:30 pm
For example, would you want to prevent me from joining FB?
FB and Pentathlon are precisely the reasons why I built my 'farm' in the first place. Yes, of course the science is a major beneficiary but I need the adrenaline from competing. Badges don't float my boat at all
Hi David
As you say, it's the projects that benefit from all the farms and other "hosts" put together by individuals or corporates/schools etc. FB and the Pentathlon are really just the icing on the cake for all the volunteers.
And maybe some adrenaline boost helps everyone
As for "who" should be allowed to compete on FB? - that is down to Sebastien. I'm just here trying to help stimulate the "conversation" between members so a simple and yet workable scheme is put in place that most "FB members" would be willing to accept.
As far as I am concerned, people can have as many hosts as they want...and if people feel this is unfair, then that is their choice. But FB cannot really "police" where each members "host" machines are...
regards
Tim
Re: Future of the Formula BOINC
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:07 pm
by systemviper
Looking Good Guys, Nice Efforts!
SV
Re: Future of the Formula BOINC
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:19 am
by Cougarpelardou
Can be made more visible on the page
https://formula-boinc.org/, the information indicating that it is necessary to register for the Formula Boinc 2022.
Re: Future of the Formula BOINC
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:16 pm
by davidBAM1
Is there a cut-off date for registration? Given that the first few months are a little different, could the registration maybe be left open until week 10 or thereabouts ??
Starting counts for late registrations would be the date they joined.
Re: Future of the Formula BOINC
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 9:28 pm
by Cougarpelardou
I don't know if the small number of registrations corresponds to a lack of interest or a lack of information, David ...
