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We need A League 4

Post by bcavnaugh » Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:25 pm

Why to allow a more Fair Competition for Home BOINC Teams and Team Members.
It would also be nice to change the Sprit Announcement to a 3 or 4 Hour Time Frame to reduce the bunkering.
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Re: We need A League 4

Post by Skillz » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:26 pm

bcavnaugh wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:25 pm
Why to allow a more Fair Competition for Home BOINC Teams and Team Members.
No. All teams have someone who uses work computers/resources at some point to run DC projects. This would eliminate majority of the teams and chances are there wouldn't be enough teams in that league to even have a competition. Your team would probably be on their own. Just drop out of FB if it's too hard for your team.
bcavnaugh wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:25 pm
It would also be nice to change the Sprit Announcement to a 3 or 4 Hour Time Frame to reduce the bunkering.
Bunkering is and has always been part of BOINC competitions/challenges. Every team has the ability to do it. It also makes it a lot more fun and adds some real strategy to the "game." 24 hours notice will also allow those who can only utilize their Internet at certain times, due to Internet caps for example, have the ability to participate.

The only problem with these sprints is sometimes the project is caught off-guard and takes their servers down for maintenance, updates or other issues. If these projects could somehow get a heads up before everyone else knows about it so they can ensure optimum performance for the Sprint then I think they'd benefit a lot more.

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Re: We need A League 4

Post by bcavnaugh » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:05 am

So I guess it was a dumb thought then.
It was more about using School Computers and Not Work Computers.
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Re: We need A League 4

Post by Skillz » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:19 am

bcavnaugh wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:05 am
So I guess it was a dumb thought then.
It was more about using School Computers and Not Work Computers.
It's no different for someone using school/university computers/resources than it is for someone using work computers/resources. Whether it's a network connection, electricity or even hardware it's all the same.

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Re: We need A League 4

Post by bcavnaugh » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:40 am

Well ok then, though I never said anything about work or school computers in the first place.
As I said below it was a dumb thought, it was only a Suggestion.
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Re: We need A League 4

Post by UBT - Timbo » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:10 pm

Skillz wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:26 pm
The only problem with these sprints is sometimes the project is caught off-guard and takes their servers down for maintenance, updates or other issues. If these projects could somehow get a heads up before everyone else knows about it so they can ensure optimum performance for the Sprint then I think they'd benefit a lot more.
100% agree with this - there is no point holding a Sprint at any given time if the chosen Project chooses that same time to do maintenance or to limit the number of tasks available.

It is fairer for all concerned, (FB teams and their members, project admins, etc) if the chosen project are given some notice that they are given a certain date for a Sprint. This allows them to ensure maximum number of available tasks and they can ensure their bandwidth can cope with the greater number of computers accessing their website.

Secondly, it would also be good, if a 2nd project was chosen and advised, so that if chosen project #1 had a failure, then project #2 could be the "back-up".

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Re: We need A League 4

Post by UBT - Timbo » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:18 pm

bcavnaugh wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:05 am
So I guess it was a dumb thought then.
It was more about using School Computers and Not Work Computers.
Hi

I think it depends on what time zone you are in, as to when people have enough time to clear their cache of existing work and to then be able to download tasks from the chosen Sprint project, during school hours.

Having only a 3-4 hour "window" to do this doesn't really give you enough time, esp if the Sprint is announced at a time when the school (or work) is closed.

Plus, if you really want to use other computers, located in remote locations, you can install "TeamViewer" (which is free, if used by non-commercial users) on them and then you can log in and change BOINC Manager to "Allow new work" from the chosen Sprint project.

Granted, this might be tricky on multiple computers at the same location, if using BOINC Manager...but you could always use BOINC Viewer, which allows one PC to control lots of other PCs on the same local network.

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Re: We need A League 4

Post by Woodles » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:16 am

bcavnaugh wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:25 pm
Why to allow a more Fair Competition for Home BOINC Teams and Team Members.
It would also be nice to change the Sprit Announcement to a 3 or 4 Hour Time Frame to reduce the bunkering.
The problem would then become of how to determine the location of a users hosts. For security, many IP addresses simply resolve to the nearest internet provider and not to individual locations, how do you determine that the host is actually in the house at the top of the street or the large company next to it?

Secondly, 3 - 4 hours isn't enough time for all the timezones involved. People who happen to be asleep, at school or working during the announcement would lose out maybe ten hours of crunching compared to those that were able to watch for the announcement. Quite a significant drop for a 72 hour sprint!

Not a dumb thought at all, it's good to see some discussion actually going on in these forums!

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